mutator a minute ago

The discourse around high density housing does not make it clear what specific type of development do advocates prefer. Its likely that the market will have to decide for itself, but if we end up with an abundance of just 1/2 bedroom rental apartments, targeted towards transient younger people, I fear it's just going to enrich the property management class, and families with kids/older parents looking for larger places and hoping to establish roots are still going to stuck fighting the pricing/supply wars.

ggm 28 minutes ago

... near transit hubs.

It should be a net positive if it doesn't die in the courts for every single proposal.

It's also not enough by itself but Rome wasn't built in a day.

  • nilsbunger 17 minutes ago

    This law (and other recent CA YIMBY laws) don't create much surface area to sue or slow a project:

    * The approvals are designed to be "ministerial", meaning there is no discretion on whether to approve or not. If the project meets the objective criteria spelled out in the law, it must be approved.

    * If the city doesn't approve in a limited time window, it's deemed "approved" by default.

    * Ministerial approval protects the project from CEQA lawsuits. CEQA requires the government to consider the environment when making decisions. When the approval is ministerial, the government doesn't make any decisions, so there is no CEQA process to sue against.

  • jimt1234 7 minutes ago

    > ... near transit hubs.

    I don't understand this narrative that California has been pushing the last few years - basically, "There's a bus stop in the neighborhood, therefore we can add a bunch of new housing without doing any other infrastructure upgrades." I just don't see it. What I do see after new housing is added is insufferable traffic and no parking - and empty buses.

  • mayneack 21 minutes ago

    With the CEQA reform from a couple months ago, those court cases should be lessened a bit.

  • Analemma_ 19 minutes ago

    SB 79 is just the latest in a long sequence of pro-housing bills to get passed in California in the last 5-6 years. I’d rather them do one or two small winnable battles per year than bet it all on a giant do-everything bill which might galvanize more opposition.

    Frankly, this strategy seems to be a good one considering what a winning streak CA YIMBYs have been on.

TinkersW 9 minutes ago

Nine stories anywhere in the state near a bus stop seems abit much, most small towns don't have anything over 2 or 3 stories(nor do they have a housing shortage).

CA lawmakers seem to pass laws focused on cities, and ignore the fact that maybe this isn't such a good idea in smaller towns & rural areas.

  • nilsbunger 2 minutes ago

    I don't think we're going to see much of that:

    * The projects won't be profitable in smaller towns, because rents aren't high enough to recoup the cost.

    * Tall buildings cost MORE per square foot than short buildings, so tall buildings only get built where land costs are very high.

    * This law's top density (7-8 floors I think?) only applies in a narrow window (0.25 to 0.5 miles) around major transit stops with LOTS of service, like < 15 minute bus intervals with dedicated BRT lanes, or trains with > 48 arrivals per day each way. Small towns don't have that kind of infrastructure.

  • cortesoft 7 minutes ago

    No one is going to build a 9 story building in a small town or rural area, it wouldn’t make any economic sense. Only places where land is valuable and scarce are economically viable for a 9 story building.